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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-13-2017, 03:07 PM Thread Starter
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XTZ 1000 Engine Trans Swap or Fix

Hey everyone. New to the group. Great forum guys, tons of great information.

I have a 2009 AC Prowler XTZ 1000 with a transmission issue, current motor still runs great but has secondary trans problem (I think), might be thrust washer failure, not sure, trans goes into gear after some playing with and once in gear, forward or reverse, it runs perfect, no slipping or grinding, however to get into reverse again or vice versa is sometimes an issue.

1. Can or should I try to fix this trans or is it a ticking time bomb and I am throwing away money? Just pony up for a new generation setup?

2. Will a 2011 motor and trans fit in my machine and be plug and play? I have found a low mileage motor and trans for around $3K.

Thanks for everyone's help with this it is appreciated.
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-14-2017, 04:27 AM
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First thing to check is the idle, if just a tad too fast, it will do the same thing. I think 1250 rpm's is the magic number, above that, good luck getting them in gear. That's where I would start, then maybe look a bent shift fork? Gary, what do you think?
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Welcome to the site! Great people on here! Suggest taking the shift cable off at the trans and try shifting by hand, if that works look at replacing the cable. The newer model engine should be a plug and play swap. Electrical connections are pretty much inter changeable.
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shift cable has been found to be an issue , it's been found that the cable alignment / routing has caused difficult shifts as well as wrong gear selection

suggest looking at the manual and adjusting the cable and that might need rerouting included with that.

also very noisy transmissions are somewhat common on the first year[s] models .... mine since day one has been very noisy to the point of obnoxious and wonder when it will blow up near 6000 miles later it's still loud and working well ... and IF yours has not been heat proofed yet you'll find it VERY hot in the cabin, dynamat the dog house helps that ..... read old threads using the search option and you'll see many posts about that issue.

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also suggest you fill in your profile and location to aid us in further questions ... so we don't have to ask a question before we answer you question .... read newby instruction in my signature below also
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Thank you everyone for the quick responses. You have given me some great information so far.

Some additional information that may help diagnose. If the machine is in drive, to get it into reverse, I can go forward 2-3 feet and stab the brakes hard, then it will shift into reverse and vice versa. Weird. Does anyone know why that might happen?

1. All, I have already disconnected the shift cable and shifted manually. Made sure it was solidly in gear and tried it in forward and reverse. I made no difference and getting it into gear was still an issue. Cable / routing is not the issue.

2. Bryan, I will definitely try to adjust the idle to see if this helps, makes sense and would be an easy fix. Fingers crossed, hopefully can try sometime this week.

3. Hoping it is not a bent shift fork or internal issue, not looking forward to splitting cases at this point but will have to if necessary.

4. GTroyer, You are right about the transmission noise and heat in the cabin, all tolerable as long as I know mine is not the only one, wife compared it to a Sherman tank, couldn't argue. Dynamat is definitely on the to do list.

Thats all for right now thanks again.

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2011 Prowler XTZ 1000 swap into a 2009 XTZ

Just want to keep this question out there as well in case I need to got this route.

Is a 2011 Prowler XTZ 1000 swap into a 2009 XTZ plug and play? Has anyone done it? If so what needs to be changed?

Thanks again for the help.
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Just want to keep this question out there as well in case I need to got this route.

Is a 2011 Prowler XTZ 1000 swap into a 2009 XTZ plug and play? Has anyone done it? If so what needs to be changed?

Thanks again for the help.
FYI .. only a few of us XTZ's on here and even fewer active guys

name is Gary or hey you if ya forget

2009 Prowler XTZ , couple things added here and there
'83 CJ7 / SBC + whole lot added here and there
'01 Dodge / Cummins / Dually, a ton of stuff added here and there

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1. Bring in a good load of firewood for the pit
2. start the morning coffee , strong but not burnt / boiled down , IMPORTANT start it early as many of us old farts get up early !!
3. sit a spell and swap some lies with the best of us
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Thanks for the heads up GTroyer, all your feedback is appreciated.
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post #9 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-15-2017, 04:55 AM
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AC has a different part number on the 2011 engine assembly. Electrical connections, or components should be easy to swap from one motor to the other.
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post #10 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-15-2017, 08:03 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks Fairmont79. That is what I thought as well.
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