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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 08-09-2014, 12:15 PM Thread Starter
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4x4 Not engaging

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So Im still wittleing away at my prowler after dropping it in the lake this spring. Problems keep surfacing after I get the whole darned thing all put back together. this newest one has me a bit baffled because I am not sure what I am looking for....

the 4x4 will not engage, you can see the lights come on on the dash panel, but cannot hear the whirring noise of it actually engaging. I have done some of the TS from a few threads I found on here. With this being a 2010 there does not appear to be a 4x4 relay, at least not in the fuse box. I have 5 relays, but all are labeled otherwise underneath them when they are removed. I did find some corrosion, but cleaned contacts and applied dielectric.

SO. Where can I test voltages at and how do I have to test them to see what is working and what is not. The service manual I have is very vague on testing locations. I have found a connector up by what what looks like the engaging mechanism that is attached to the frame, there is no corrosion in here so i assume this to be the testing spot. Can anybody tell me where to go from here.

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Hey All,
So Im still wittleing away at my prowler after dropping it in the lake this spring. Problems keep surfacing after I get the whole darned thing all put back together. this newest one has me a bit baffled because I am not sure what I am looking for....

the 4x4 will not engage, you can see the lights come on on the dash panel, but cannot hear the whirring noise of it actually engaging. I have done some of the TS from a few threads I found on here. With this being a 2010 there does not appear to be a 4x4 relay, at least not in the fuse box. I have 5 relays, but all are labeled otherwise underneath them when they are removed. I did find some corrosion, but cleaned contacts and applied dielectric.

SO. Where can I test voltages at and how do I have to test them to see what is working and what is not. The service manual I have is very vague on testing locations. I have found a connector up by what what looks like the engaging mechanism that is attached to the frame, there is no corrosion in here so i assume this to be the testing spot. Can anybody tell me where to go from here.

Thanks!!
Un-plug your actuator along the front frame rail and see if your getting power to the actuator.I dont think it is a re-builder part either,but at least you will know if you have power going to it.

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Dropping it in the lake sounds like a good story! X'2 with DE3.

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Is there a certain voltage or pin I should be checking. Is this the 4 or 6 pin, semi-round connector that is located on the left side vertical pillar, just behind what I am assuming is the actuator?
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Is there a certain voltage or pin I should be checking. Is this the 4 or 6 pin, semi-round connector that is located on the left side vertical pillar, just behind what I am assuming is the actuator?
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Its easy to find just locate your actuator on the front diff and trace the wiring coming from it.it will be the square box.

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im also going to need a new one. Its currently stuck in 4 wheel. Cant remember if you replace it in 4 or 2 wheel drive. Hoping its in 4, then I will keep this as a spare.

I will be trouble shooting it in the next few days to make sure its the actuator.

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actuator was shot, got it off and opened it up, and it was still wet with water inside. The RTV sealant did its job, but the rubber boot on the actuating pin had been cracked which is where the unit failed. I was able to replace mine without having to be in 4wd, (fortunately as I could not get it into 4wd) BUT, from reading some of the tech support on the actuator, there must be some models that had a winding unit inside that would spring out if the unit was not in 4wd (relaxed mode) Not the case with mine.

Add another $260 onto the entrance fee to the swimming pool

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Still plenty of time to get it up and running before winter when the pool turns into an ice skating rink which brings me to my question how do you like your V-Plow?

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actuator was shot, got it off and opened it up, and it was still wet with water inside. The RTV sealant did its job, but the rubber boot on the actuating pin had been cracked which is where the unit failed. I was able to replace mine without having to be in 4wd, (fortunately as I could not get it into 4wd) BUT, from reading some of the tech support on the actuator, there must be some models that had a winding unit inside that would spring out if the unit was not in 4wd (relaxed mode) Not the case with mine.

Add another $260 onto the entrance fee to the swimming pool
Where did you buy your actuator at.

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MLH, I dont have many hours behind the plow, what I can tell you is:
It is of very solid construction
The electric turn kit is worth its weight in gold
The bounce back springs need to be much stronger, it will trip very easily
The 2 pins to disc for removal are nice to get at, but the tolerances are so tight that it can get tricky to install it, have to get creative with a screw driver to line the holes up properly, I am assuming this will get better as things slop out a little bit.


DE3 - I purchased it from the local AC dealer, looking online I could find for 216, but didnt have the time to wait for the shipping aspect.

Thanks for the help!

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