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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-12-2010, 10:34 AM Thread Starter
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2008 650 charging problems

Looking for some help.Replaced battery and decided to check voltage at battery post with engine running ,only showing 12 volts.Took it out for a ride with the headlights on and after about an hour the lights went dim and had display go blank.Low battery again.Hopefully it is not the magneto,I guess maybe a voltage regulator? I charged the battery on a charger turned it on and there is a "57x" flashing on my display.Does anybody have any ideas what could be going on?Maybe that is some kind of service code?
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Give it a bit I am sure some of the guys will be on to help you out. I am not the best on this subject regarding the common problems, knock on wood my 2006 650 has been working fine.



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In neutral rev it to 3000 rpm. How much voltage do have there?



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I did revved it up and it still did not affect the output it still stays at 12 volts on the voltmeter.I'm assuming bad voltage reg? Is it located on the side of the battery compartment ,small pot metal casing with cooling fins? and where can I look at one online? Thanks for your input.
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Ok then you do have a charging problem. Online the voltage regulators sell for around 75 bucks new. You are correct that is the voltage reg. If you like you could pm eeac on this forum. He is a dealer and can get you taken care of. He treats people right. And will take good care of you.



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The regulator/rectifier is located under the driver’s
seat next to the battery. Try to verify all other charging
system components before the regulator/rectifier
is replaced.
TESTING
1. Start engine and warm up to normal operating
temperatures; then connect a multimeter (set at
the DC Voltage position) to the battery as follows.
2. Connect the red tester lead to the positive battery
post and the black tester lead to the negative
battery post.
3. Slowly increase RPM. The voltage should
increase with the engine RPM to a maximum of
15.5 DC volts.


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NOTE: If voltage rises above 15.5 DC volts, the
regulator is faulty or a battery connection is loose
or corroded. Clean and tighten battery connections
or replace the regulator/rectifier. If voltage
does not rise, check Voltage (Charging Coil - No
Load) in this section. If charging coil voltage is
normal, replace the regulator/rectifier

VOLTAGE (Charging Coil - Output)
1. Set the meter selector to the DC Voltage position.
2. Connect the red tester lead to the positive battery
post; then connect the black tester lead to
the negative battery post.
3. With the engine running at a constant 5000 RPM
(with the headlights on), the meter must show
14-15.5 DC volts

VOLTAGE
(Stator Coil - No Load)
The connector is the black and white one on the
right side of the engine just above the brake cable
adjuster.
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NOTE: Test the connector that comes from the
engine.

1. Set the meter selector to the AC Voltage position.
2. Test between the three black wires for a total of
three tests.
3. With the engine running at the specified RPM,
all wire tests must be within specification.
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NOTE: If both charging coil tests failed, check all
connections, etc., and test again. If no voltage is
present, replace the stator assembly.







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Thanks for the info :I now know where to check for ac voltage from the stator leads I assume the specified rpm for this test is 5000 RPM However is the stator producing a 3 phase voltage? As stated it looks like I would check from wire to wire for a specified voltage at a specified rpm.Any idea what these voltage specifications are?
Thanks DesertCat,
Also is there a more advanced service manual to find these troubleshooting techniques?
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Thanks for the info :I now know where to check for ac voltage from the stator leads I assume the specified rpm for this test is 5000 RPM However is the stator producing a 3 phase voltage? As stated it looks like I would check from wire to wire for a specified voltage at a specified rpm.Any idea what these voltage specifications are?
Thanks DesertCat,
Also is there a more advanced service manual to find these troubleshooting techniques?
So what did you figure out? I'm having charging problems too that I had chocked up to a bad battery. The wire coming out of the passenger side of the engine has oil inside of the protective covering starting where it comes out of the motor and going all the way to the plug on the other side. I'm pretty sure this is the wires from the stator. I think this is the plug you're talking about testing?
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Sorry ,I haven't had time to troubleshoot it as I have been working out of town for a few weeks .I won't be able to check it out for at least 2 more weeks,and yes that is one of the plugs I wil be putting a tester on .If you get to it before me please give a reply.Let me know what you find.Missed my fall riding because of it but also have to keep on working.That "d--n"work always seems to get in the way!
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Sorry ,I haven't had time to troubleshoot it as I have been working out of town for a few weeks .I won't be able to check it out for at least 2 more weeks,and yes that is one of the plugs I wil be putting a tester on .If you get to it before me please give a reply.Let me know what you find.Missed my fall riding because of it but also have to keep on working.That "d--n"work always seems to get in the way!
I noticed with mine if I pull the battery cable off while its running it keeps running fine? Wonder how many volts I should have at the cable end when unhooked, at least 2 I assume. I had a trip planned for royal blue this week ut looks like thats out unless I find a quick solution.
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