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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 05-26-2014, 05:31 PM Thread Starter
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Rear Differential

My 2013 HDX 700 has a locked up rear axle which I am guessing is the way they are built. Is it possible to put a for real differential in this machine so it will turn around without tearing up the lawn? I would like for it to turn like a road vehicle with the rear wheels able to turn at different speeds.
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I am assuming your wanting to install a turf saver rear end? You will find out that most guys eneded up removing the turf saver rear end from their units because they prematurely failed.

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I am not familiar with the 'turf saver' rear ends but that sounds like a rear end with differential action. I also had know idea that they were prone to failure. I doubt I would want to add that to my list of problems.
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I am not familiar with the 'turf saver' rear ends but that sounds like a rear end with differential action. I also had know idea that they were prone to failure. I doubt I would want to add that to my list of problems.
Being prone to failure may be a little harsh in terms but. They do wear out over time. I myself am not familiar either the setup either. I just know that everyone eliminates it due to the upkeep required!

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There seems to be a history of failures with the Turf Saver rear end, It was installed in the 2008,09,& 10 XTX models only. I have one in mine and have over 5,000 miles on it, and it is still going strong. I only used Arctic Cat friction modified lube in it, and change it twice a year. The downside on the unit is the price compared to the locked rear gear, 850.00 for the turf saver, and 180.00 for the locked gear. I'd be afraid to by a used one as I think you would be asking for trouble. Looked at the parts manual, the turf saver would fit your case, both are 36 teeth ring gears, you would also need to change axles to the 8,9,or 10 XTX as the splines are different. I say axles as you could change the inner CV Joint, but you can get a complete axle for 10.00 dollars more than the CV joint!

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I am not familiar with the 'turf saver' rear ends but that sounds like a rear end with differential action. I also had know idea that they were prone to failure. I doubt I would want to add that to my list of problems.
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There seems to be a history of failures with the Turf Saver rear end, It was installed in the 2008,09,& 10 XTX models only. I have one in mine and have over 5,000 miles on it, and it is still going strong. I only used Arctic Cat friction modified lube in it, and change it twice a year. The downside on the unit is the price compared to the locked rear gear, 850.00 for the turf saver, and 180.00 for the locked gear. I'd be afraid to by a used one as I think you would be asking for trouble. Looked at the parts manual, the turf saver would fit your case, both are 36 teeth ring gears, you would also need to change axles to the 8,9,or 10 XTX as the splines are different. I say axles as you could change the inner CV Joint, but you can get a complete axle for 10.00 dollars more than the CV joint!
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Yeah, we try!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Thanks DE3

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CV Joint removal

I am not up to speed on current terminology but is it possible to remove one of the CV Shafts to a back wheel and still run the machine? To me it is an axle but I am old and my lingo doesn't fit modern usage.
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I don't think it would work, not worth the effort to try!

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