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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 03-12-2010, 01:54 PM Thread Starter
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Bevel Gears Blown on XTZ

Hey guys, i am just looking to see how many XTZ owners out there have had their bevel gears break, causing complete engine failure. I've had 2 go on my XTZ, and I only have 638km on the machine. My arctic cat dealership said that they have never heard of this problem, so if you could just chime in and say you have, I will show them this thread, so they can see for themselves its not just me. Thanks!!!
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Hey guys, i am just looking to see how many XTZ owners out there have had their bevel gears break, causing complete engine failure. I've had 2 go on my XTZ, and I only have 638km on the machine. My arctic cat dealership said that they have never heard of this problem, so if you could just chime in and say you have, I will show them this thread, so they can see for themselves its not just me. Thanks!!!
What gears are you referring to in the engine? Part numbers or pictures work great for me.

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What gears are you referring to in the engine? Part numbers or pictures work great for me.

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Hey guys, i am just looking to see how many XTZ owners out there have had their bevel gears break, causing complete engine failure. I've had 2 go on my XTZ, and I only have 638km on the machine. My arctic cat dealership said that they have never heard of this problem, so if you could just chime in and say you have, I will show them this thread, so they can see for themselves its not just me. Thanks!!!
Bad bevels are common with the mudders. Big tires and hammering on it in reverse seem to be what makes them go the quickest. Sometimes just the gears go and sometimes it cracks the cases. There was a bevel gear update on the 09 model H1s I believe. Checkout the arcticcat section at www.highlifter.com go to mudhole, then forum. I've read where some guys are having their gears cryod. Do you have bigger tires?
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i don't have pics, as the machine is still getting fixed, been there for a month on thursday, but whats going is a secondary gear in the tranny, which then takes out the whole engine.
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Also, the tires i am running are 27" grim reapers, which aren't that big when you compare them with the stock 26" tires.
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Also, the tires i am running are 27" grim reapers, which aren't that big when you compare them with the stock 26" tires.
Are you getting a new engine or a rebuild?
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Hopefully a new engine. Just fighting with my dealer right now. They said they have not gotten paid from the first job, called ac, and they said there was no claims. Someone is lying.
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Curious what caused them to go the first time. Were you hammering on it pretty hard. Any driveline bind, like stuck and spinning the wheels till they hop?
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Bad bevels are common with the mudders. Big tires and hammering on it in reverse seem to be what makes them go the quickest. Sometimes just the gears go and sometimes it cracks the cases. There was a bevel gear update on the 09 model H1s I believe. Checkout the arcticcat section at www.highlifter.com go to mudhole, then forum. I've read where some guys are having their gears cryod. Do you have bigger tires?
The bad bevel gears in the diffs was primarily an XT650 and XTX700 problem on models prior to 2009. The XTZs haven't been having that problem for the most part. As for mudders, those guys have all kinds of breakage on every brand. When you put 30inch mudder tires on, spin the tires uncontrollably in mud and then the tires catch traction periodically, things will break. Most mudders expect this kind of damage and buld accordingly.
As for the secondary gear in the transmission breaking, I have never heard of that problem. Doesn't mean that isn't a valid problem, I've just never heard of it happening before now. I don't suspect the 27inch tires to be the main fault, oversize tires tend to break axles and diff's before trannys get broken.
Good luck Fidds, I hope they get it taken care of. Have the techs check the alignment of the gear shafts and such, it sounds like something may be misaligned in the tranny.

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