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post #1 of 44 (permalink) Old 08-21-2012, 11:54 AM Thread Starter
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What would it take to convert my 2006 Prowler to 4 wheel disc brakes?

I'm seriously considering converting my 2006 Prowler to 4 wheel disc brakes and eliminating the crappy driveline brake. For any of you dealers or experts out there......

Can you tell me what parts breakdown I would need? Obviously I'm looking for the easiest and cheapest conversion. So if you know of what parts would bolt up to "most" of my existing equipment that would be appreciated........

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post #2 of 44 (permalink) Old 08-21-2012, 12:44 PM
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Cool

that sure would be nice,i have never seen any body do it, but iam sure it could be done,now you know thats gonna set the wife in orbit.i had a 94 300 honda 4x4 and i put a disc brake kit on the front from high lifter.com.

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It probably won't be a very cheap conversion but hope you can find some help on this, interesting idea. aren't the newer models 4 wheel disc?

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It probably won't be a very cheap conversion but hope you can find some help on this, interesting idea. aren't the newer models 4 wheel disc?
The newer models are 4 wheel disc. The center brake on the driveshafts are just used as the parking brake on the new ones. I would like to know which was the first year of the 4 wheel discs on the Prowlers?

If I can't get the brake clatter out of my system (and I've confirmed motor, etc. is good) then I will be looking to do this. I won't live with the noise. May have to be done in pieces over time due to cost. Heck, I may just drive with front brakes alone for a while. No clatter noise when I do this.

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-1999 Polaris Sportsman 500 ATV
-2006 AC Prowler 650XT (SOLD)-- updated bevel gears, updated oil pump driven gear, 4 wheel disc brakes, line lock E-brake, Papa Slap clutch, Xentec HID's, Dynatek CDI, Warn skid plates, Intellitronix gauges, 2010 intake/cvt duct work and dust shield, RZR seats, Bestop folding windshield, full cab kit, rear cage and rear seats (4 seater)
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post #5 of 44 (permalink) Old 08-21-2012, 03:55 PM Thread Starter
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I found one post on another forum that stated the rear knuckles (part# 0504-613) from a 2009 1000 (maybe other years as well) might mount up to my 2006 A-arms. If this is true then it seems I could add the rotors, hubs, and calipers from a 2009 1000. Can anybody confirm this?

Or maybe if there are any 2009 1000 owners (or other year with part# 0504-613) that could measure the width of the knuckles at the points where the A-arms bolt up to it? Curious if it is the same width spacing as mine?

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Good question.
It would take new hubs, calipers, rotors, brake lines. This is assuming the control arms would work.



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Good question.
It would take new hubs, calipers, rotors, brake lines. This is assuming the control arms would work.
To me it looks like it would take new:

1. knuckles
2. hubs
3. calipers
4. rotors
5. brake lines

From what I can tell, it looks like the rear parts above from a 2009 Prowler 1000 would work, at least from me cross referencing like parts and hardware. Can anybody confirm this? Can anybody think of anything I'm missing besides the bolts?

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-2011 Polaris RZR-4 800 (SOLD)
-1999 Polaris Sportsman 500 ATV
-2006 AC Prowler 650XT (SOLD)-- updated bevel gears, updated oil pump driven gear, 4 wheel disc brakes, line lock E-brake, Papa Slap clutch, Xentec HID's, Dynatek CDI, Warn skid plates, Intellitronix gauges, 2010 intake/cvt duct work and dust shield, RZR seats, Bestop folding windshield, full cab kit, rear cage and rear seats (4 seater)
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So it appears part# 0504-613 is the rear knuckles for all year 1000's. I cross referenced the knuckle parts with that of a 2006. It uses the same axle, axle bearing, bushings, and bolt hardware to mount up to the A-arms. So is it safe to assume these knuckles would work on my 2006?

This knuckle is the key. If it would mate up to my A-arms then it would seem that I could purchase all the necessary hardware for a 1000 to fit my '06 (knuckles, hubs, rotors, brake lines, and calipers). Then it seems it wouldn't be too hard to make the conversion other than the expense.

Any chance we can get some dimensions from you 1000 owners? Maybe the width of the two locations where the A-arms mount? Maybe the length between these two mounting points as well? Just figured I could compare these dimensions to my current knuckles....

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-2006 AC Prowler 650XT (SOLD)-- updated bevel gears, updated oil pump driven gear, 4 wheel disc brakes, line lock E-brake, Papa Slap clutch, Xentec HID's, Dynatek CDI, Warn skid plates, Intellitronix gauges, 2010 intake/cvt duct work and dust shield, RZR seats, Bestop folding windshield, full cab kit, rear cage and rear seats (4 seater)
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My XTZ also has a drive line brake for the parking brake.

I will run out there and grab a few measurements, give me a minute.
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post #10 of 44 (permalink) Old 08-22-2012, 09:00 AM Thread Starter
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My XTZ also has a drive line brake for the parking brake.

I will run out there and grab a few measurements, give me a minute.

That would be appreciated. I figure if I had the width dimensions of the knuckles to where they mount to the A-arms that could tell me whether my A-arm mounts would match up. Also the height from lower A-arm mount to upper A-arm mount would give me a good comparison measurement as well.

I guess my one concern would be whether the knuckle mounts are offset or something from my knuckles which would screw everything up.

If anybody is willing to take pictures of the 1000 knuckles that could help as well. I'm going to try and contact my local dealership and hope they have one in stock that maybe I could pull my knuckle off to compare.

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-1999 Polaris Sportsman 500 ATV
-2006 AC Prowler 650XT (SOLD)-- updated bevel gears, updated oil pump driven gear, 4 wheel disc brakes, line lock E-brake, Papa Slap clutch, Xentec HID's, Dynatek CDI, Warn skid plates, Intellitronix gauges, 2010 intake/cvt duct work and dust shield, RZR seats, Bestop folding windshield, full cab kit, rear cage and rear seats (4 seater)
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