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post #1 of 50 (permalink) Old 05-17-2013, 10:32 AM Thread Starter
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Just got news from the Dealer... :(

Was just speaking to my Dealer with regards to repairs to my 2008 Prowler 650XT.

Last Fall while driving, I suddenly lost power, and when I came to a stop, the engine died. It would still start but made a bad clunking/clacking noise. I parked it for the winter, and have just taken it out to bring for repairs.

He is finishing up the estimate today, but so far it needs:

(1) a new Crankshaft (2) New Cylinder (3) New Piston and Rings (4) Bearings/Gaskets/Seals to do the job. (4) He mentioned that the bearing on the Transmission is slack and suggest replacing it (5) New Belt (6) figures 12hrs Labor at $55 / hr.

He states he may have a good used cylinder that he can let me have for 1/2 price

Soooo....Looking like at a @ $2000.00 repair Bill.

This SUX!!

He said the oil level was good, and the oil pump is working fine. He says the culprit was the Crank Bearing.

I wonder is I can get parts cheaper online, or used for that matter??

Any suggestions?
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post #2 of 50 (permalink) Old 05-17-2013, 12:45 PM
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I would not pay them $2000 to do the repairs. I think you can purchase a brand new 650 motor for in the $2400-$2600 range if I remember correctly. You would be better off going that route and having everything new. You could purchase the parts and do the work yourself and save a lot of money (working on these motors isn't that hard as I'm completely torn down mine before). Don't know the cost of parts offhand, but you can search arcticcatparts.com to price out the individual parts and decide yourself once you know the difference between doing it yourself vs. new motor.

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I'll start listing as I find parts and prices. Prices are from arcticcatparts.com

1. crankshaft assembly 0805-326 $486.71
2. piston/ring set 0805-035 $99.05
3. cylinder 0804-016 $467.99
4. crankshaft bearings part# 0832-043 $28.46 and part# 0832-042 $25.97
5. belt 0823-013 $78.74

Not sure which bearings he is talking about, but if you are going to do this work you should upgrade to the new style bevel gears in your transmission. The new bevel gears along with the new output bearing and all engine gaskets will run you close to $350.

Don't forget about doing the upgraded oil pump driven gear as well to be on the safe side. Part# 0812-083 $23.36.

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-2006 AC Prowler 650XT (SOLD)-- updated bevel gears, updated oil pump driven gear, 4 wheel disc brakes, line lock E-brake, Papa Slap clutch, Xentec HID's, Dynatek CDI, Warn skid plates, Intellitronix gauges, 2010 intake/cvt duct work and dust shield, RZR seats, Bestop folding windshield, full cab kit, rear cage and rear seats (4 seater)

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I'll start listing as I find parts and prices. Prices are from arcticcatparts.com

1. crankshaft assembly 0805-326 $486.71
2. piston/ring set 0805-035 $99.05
3. cylinder 0804-016 $467.99
4. crankshaft bearings part# 0832-043 $28.46 and part# 0832-042 $25.97
5. belt 0823-013 $78.74

Not sure which bearings he is talking about, but if you are going to do this work you should upgrade to the new style bevel gears in your transmission. The new bevel gears along with the new output bearing and all engine gaskets will run you close to $350.
I dont know if the 2008 motor cost more or not,I know from my dealer for a 06 motor is 2600 dollars complete, except carb.

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I dont know if the 2008 motor cost more or not,I know from my dealer for a 06 motor is 2600 dollars complete, except carb.
I got ripped off my motor was 3,200 must be a Missouri Special Edition, but then I don't get to hangout with my dealer like you do.

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New engine from arcticcatparts.com is listed as part# 0437-072 and is listed as $2570.84 plus shipping. From Joe's past experience, most places don't honor what the shipping cost says if you go to order online. Maybe your local dealer could give you a better deal if you decide to buy a new motor over just rebuilding your current one.

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New engine from arcticcatparts.com is listed as part# 0437-072 and is listed as $2570.84 plus shipping. From Joe's past experience, most places don't honor what the shipping cost says if you go to order online. Maybe your local dealer could give you a better deal if you decide to buy a new motor over just rebuilding your current one.
I went to arcticatparts.com and searched the number you listed and did not find any results.

After searching the part number online I see prices ranging from $2900 - $3300 + shipping.

I will definitely talk to my dealer about this possibility.

This is not the dealer I am having the work done at....but one that I found online that is about 3hrs away.

http://www.gbourque.com/fiche_sectio...009&fveh=21347

The price of the engine there is $4055.95 CDN.... UGH!!!
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I went to arcticatparts.com and searched the number you listed and did not find any results.

After searching the part number online I see prices ranging from $2900 - $3300 + shipping.

I will definitely talk to my dealer about this possibility.

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Based off my price search, you are looking at least around $1600 in parts, but I'm including the new upgraded bevel gears and oil pump driven gear which you will most definitely want to upgrade too if you are rebuilding the motor. Be sure your dealer upgrades these parts if you have them do it. That $1600 does not include engine cases. So factor in whatever you find those for. So you are already pushing close to $2000. So in this case, I would probably bite the bullet and try to get your dealer to get you a brand new motor that will have all the new upgraded parts for closer to $2600 if you could.

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-2006 AC Prowler 650XT (SOLD)-- updated bevel gears, updated oil pump driven gear, 4 wheel disc brakes, line lock E-brake, Papa Slap clutch, Xentec HID's, Dynatek CDI, Warn skid plates, Intellitronix gauges, 2010 intake/cvt duct work and dust shield, RZR seats, Bestop folding windshield, full cab kit, rear cage and rear seats (4 seater)
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Canadian Prices......

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1. crankshaft assembly 0805-326 $486.71 <-- $652.76
2. piston/ring set 0805-035 $99.05 <-- $132.85
3. cylinder 0804-016 $467.99 <-- $627.80
4. crankshaft bearings part# 0832-043 $28.46 ($40.46) and part# 0832-042 $25.97 ($36.86)
5. belt 0823-013 $78.74 <-- $105.65
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Not sure which bearings he is talking about, but if you are going to do this work you should upgrade to the new style bevel gears in your transmission. The new bevel gears along with the new output bearing and all engine gaskets will run you close to $350.

Don't forget about doing the upgraded oil pump driven gear as well to be on the safe side. Part# 0812-083 $23.36.
I do not follow you with regards to the new style bevel gears (again, I am not mechanically inclined). These are in the transmission and not the engine? I know he mentioned a transmission bearing being slack and recommending replacement. You state $350.00 for bearings and gaskets to do the job. Is this job labour intensive if I were to get the dealer to do this as well?
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