The are the stoutest add on cages I have found. Clearly a full replacement cage is stouter, the main people that buy these are like soazcat, people that want to be able to still dump their bed. I have a few of them out around here and so does the Polaris dealer and none of them have had problems, but the people buying them aren't going to the dunes and endoing their machine. I think for the most part anyone that has these don't ride very hard at all, just kinda cruise around. A good portion of the people that have bought them wouldn't have put any cage on at all, but I got them to buy this, heck of a lot better than having nothing over the back seat.