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12-10-2010 07:40 PM
sandchris If you don't find anybody selling any. Try GO GO Performance her in phoenix. Tell em Chris with the Arctic cat sent ya for the good guy discount. 602 788-2699.



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12-10-2010 07:32 PM
Cue Thanks again for all of the advice! My Cat already has had the tie rods upgraded and I replaced the rollers with the Speedwerkx "dune" ones. One thing I noticed regarding the front end is that sometimes it "pops", but I haven't found any loose nuts on the tie rods and such. It doesn't appear to be broken or hindering performance, but I was thinking that something may need to be greased??? It seems as though my next step is to get some new wheels and tires (or paddles). Thanks again, guys! Anybody got a tire set up they want to sell????
12-06-2010 06:26 PM
Mustanggeek
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We are glad to help around here. Real important on the paddles to run the lightest tire wheel combo you can. Wakes the 650's right up. I recommend a 8 inch wide x 10 inch diameter douglas blue label wheel for the rear. With a real light carcass like the lumber jack for the 7 paddle extreme rears. For the front a 7 inch wide x 12 inch dimeter red label. Again need to start with a real light carcass for the front buff. So in other words this gives you a 8" wide 10" diameter 7 paddle 25" tall tire for the rear that helps with a little lower final drive ratio verses the 26" tire you running. And you end up with a 7" wide 12" diameter smooth buff for the front to clear the calipers. This set up weighs in at 17-19 lbs each for a tire and wheel. This is probably half or more what the terra cross tires and wheels weigh you are running. The one bummer of this set up is that for the fronts the vavle stem hole has to be welded up and a new one drilled on the other side of the douglas red label wheels. This just happens on the front ones though. As far as the wheel spacers go this set up has a good offset to it. It will probably end up being almost as wide as your current set up with the spacers. Wheel spacers are more weight you have to spin and will hurt performance imo. The best advise I can give you is keep it as light as possible for the 650 cc's.
Couple more things I would consider is the tie rods and the clutch weights.
The stock tie rods suck and need to be addressed. They bend-break very easily. There are beaf up kits avail. from AC. And aftermarket tie rods from some vendors on this site.
Next the clutch rollers can become hot and get flat spots in them. I would take a look at those as soon as you have the time. And of course if you see any flat spots replace them. Not that the rollers are a problem but unless I knew I would check em.
A few of the guys here have this setup and it works great.
12-06-2010 05:03 PM
sandchris We are glad to help around here. Real important on the paddles to run the lightest tire wheel combo you can. Wakes the 650's right up. I recommend a 8 inch wide x 10 inch diameter douglas blue label wheel for the rear. With a real light carcass like the lumber jack for the 7 paddle extreme rears. For the front a 7 inch wide x 12 inch dimeter red label. Again need to start with a real light carcass for the front buff. So in other words this gives you a 8" wide 10" diameter 7 paddle 25" tall tire for the rear that helps with a little lower final drive ratio verses the 26" tire you running. And you end up with a 7" wide 12" diameter smooth buff for the front to clear the calipers. This set up weighs in at 17-19 lbs each for a tire and wheel. This is probably half or more what the terra cross tires and wheels weigh you are running. The one bummer of this set up is that for the fronts the vavle stem hole has to be welded up and a new one drilled on the other side of the douglas red label wheels. This just happens on the front ones though. As far as the wheel spacers go this set up has a good offset to it. It will probably end up being almost as wide as your current set up with the spacers. Wheel spacers are more weight you have to spin and will hurt performance imo. The best advise I can give you is keep it as light as possible for the 650 cc's.
Couple more things I would consider is the tie rods and the clutch weights.
The stock tie rods suck and need to be addressed. They bend-break very easily. There are beaf up kits avail. from AC. And aftermarket tie rods from some vendors on this site.
Next the clutch rollers can become hot and get flat spots in them. I would take a look at those as soon as you have the time. And of course if you see any flat spots replace them. Not that the rollers are a problem but unless I knew I would check em.



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12-06-2010 12:33 PM
Cue Thanks for all of the replies and advice. I guess it's time to get some new tires. Can anybody recommend a certain size or brand of either paddle or regular tire that has worked out well for them in the dunes? Will stock rims still fit even if I have wheels spacers? And if so, anybody got any stockers they want to sell???

Thanks for the correction on my rear diff, Sandchris!
12-06-2010 09:16 AM
flying121 Welcome aboard.
12-06-2010 07:25 AM
Joes5091
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I have a stock 07 650xt with stock Goodyears and I keep up with everyone in my group just fine....they even have paddles.
Yes he does!
12-06-2010 07:15 AM
Mustanggeek I have a stock 07 650xt with stock Goodyears and I keep up with everyone in my group just fine....they even have paddles.
12-06-2010 07:07 AM
Joes5091 Welcome to the forum, Listen to Sandchris he really knows his stuff. Im running the sand tire size that he recommended to another Dessertcat and they are Fantastic!
12-06-2010 06:52 AM
sandchris Welcome to the site. My 650 duned great. Yep way out in the big dunes. Very impressed with it when it was stock. I will say that I did buy some terra cross tires for it a few years ago and that is when the fun ended. They were too heavy and I knew it but had to try em anyway. What a pig with those tires on it. Switched back to stock and was much better. And The paddles if you go with the light set up will work great. Oh and you should not have the turf saver rear end. You should have the 4.0 standard spool type.



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