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Hi all, newbie here. Just picked up a '07 650 XT to replace my 4 wheeler.
Had my first issue yesterday. Backed it out of the garage, then put into high. Started going but then the motor just revved higher and the machine didn't move any faster. Reverse seemed ok. Played around through hi/lo/reverse with same issue. Drove it around slowly for 10 minutes or so and then it seemed to correct itself. I do think I did smell burnt rubber. Not sure if it is a clutching issue or a bad belt. There is about 2800 miles on it and it was supposedly maintained by the dealer. It had sat in the rain the day before and our temps have dropped below freezing if that helps any.
 

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Welcome Bobweiser. Could be a few things going. Have heard of some having leaking oil seals that get oil on the belt. Or maybe it got some water in it from the rain. It should not have because of the clutch cover that should be on it. Or maybe it has some clutch issues. Best thing to do is pull the cover and find out what if anything is going on.



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You may have crap or just ice in your clutchs. Take the cover off and clean real good with brake clean and replace the belt. If the clutches are sticking you will burn a belt.
 

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Belt slipping should occur whether forwards or backwards though.

Best to open it up as suggested and see what's happening.
 

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Thanks for the tips. I will tearing into it this weekend I hope.
Hey Bob,
If this is your first time opening up the belt case take a look at this thread below. I found it under our new forum called
Frequently Asked Technical Questions

http://www.prowlertalk.net/forums/arctic-cat-prowler-general-discussions/1995-video-how-disassemble-clutches-arctic-cats.html



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I took the cover off and don't see anything out of the ordinary. While I was trying to get the clutch off, a small chunk of one of the ears broke off. Will this cause issues? I still haven't been able to get the nut off to get the clutch off. :mad:
 

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I would not try to get the belt off with out removing the big nut on the primary I have heard of some guys say that they changed there belt on the trail but I would like to see that done I had mine a part and I tryed to get the belt off just to see if I could do it even with the little bolt in to spread the secondary.You are gonna need a good impact wrench, where in the UP are ya at, Im just south of Marquette 25 minutes if your close enough I can help you out.

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I agree, I can't get the belt off without taking off the primary. That's how I ended up breaking the little ear off while trying to hold the primary from turning. Looks like time to upgrade my impact wrench. Dave - I am 10 min south of Escanaba. Thanks for the offer though.
 

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Just changed a belt on my 2006/650. Although some people claim that it's easy to change the belt without removing the primary, I never had much luck at it. Perhaps if you HAD to, you could make it work.

Like yourself, my first attempt at removing the primary using only a wrench didn't go far. I've got my Father's day list submitted already....IMPACT WRENCH. You'll be surprised how easy it is with an impact. You may need to throw some heat on the nut as it is installed (and reinstalled...don't forget) with red loctite.

Regarding the burning rubber smell and the issue with changing between gears. That's the exact same symptoms that I had about 30 minutes before the belt snapped and left my son and daughter stranded and calling for a tow (at 1 in the morning). I wouldn't worry too much about a small chip off the primary, as long as it didn't damage the main hub.
 

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I couldn't agree with you guys more!! I tried for about 2 hours to get the belt off without taking off the primary.. just wanted to see if it could be done on the trail and I have come to this conclusion.. if you need to change the belt trail side.. you better have a portable compressor and an impact wrench with ya!! lol
 

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That Snap-on impact wrench is quite impressive....400ft-lb of torque from an 18V battery!! Way too expensive to serve as a "spare part" though - I'll stick with a $5 tow rope rather than a $100 belt and a $400+ impact wrench :D. You guys in the US must have barrels of money - must be the low price of gas down there....lol :)
 

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I went and bought the Craftsman 1/2 cordless for 150 or 160. And it zips em right off.
That Snap-on impact wrench is quite impressive....400ft-lb of torque from an 18V battery!! Way too expensive to serve as a "spare part" though - I'll stick with a $5 tow rope rather than a $100 belt and a $400+ impact wrench :D. You guys in the US must have barrels of money - must be the low price of gas down there....lol :)


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Thanks to a borrowed SnapOn pneumatic with 1000 ft/lbs of reverse torque. Clutch is off. I did a cleaning with compressed air and brake clean. New belt should be at the dealer tomorrow.
Hoping the little piece that broke off won't be an issue and with cleaning and a new belt, should be good to go.
Is there anything else that needs to be done? Any lubrication in the clutching area?

Thanks
 

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Bob look closely at the bushings inside of the drive clutch . they can cause the outer half of the sheave to stick if the are gummed up or really worn . i recomend cleaning them with electrical contact cleaner or starting fluid . something that doesnt leave a residue like some brakecleaners do . i had the same problem after a wetclutch seal blew and the oil gummed up the bushings .

if the belt looks gummy you can clean it too . use hot water and dish soap . cscrub it with a scotch bright pad to rough it back up a little . be sure to measure the width to see if it is still in spec . allow it to completely dry before reinstall . dont use solvents on the belts they will be absorbed into the belt and then when the belt gets hot , it bleeds out of the belt and makes a gooey mess and will cause problems
 

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Don't forget the red thread lock.
Thanks to a borrowed SnapOn pneumatic with 1000 ft/lbs of reverse torque. Clutch is off. I did a cleaning with compressed air and brake clean. New belt should be at the dealer tomorrow.
Hoping the little piece that broke off won't be an issue and with cleaning and a new belt, should be good to go.
Is there anything else that needs to be done? Any lubrication in the clutching area?

Thanks


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