[Chance]

O.K. School me on some paddles. I'd like some light aluminum Douglas wheels with some paddles and buffs. What size will work? I heard I need a 12" wheel and maybe some spacers? What offset on the wheels? How many paddles?

 

[Fast cat]

12 inch wheels will not clear the brake caliper on the front 2 1/2 spacers bring it out but still only clears by 1/16 of a inch. bend a rin and ouch bye bye caliper

 

[sandchris]

Call Tim at extreme tire here in phx.He has tires and wheels in stock.I have been running 12 inch wheels for three years now and they work great.Have not bent a douglas front wheel yet.And I dont run wheel spacers.The front rotors and calipers are the same on the xtz as they are on the 650's-700,s.I think gdeez is running them too with no problems.

12 inch wheels will not clear the brake caliper on the front 2 1/2 spacers bring it out but still only clears by 1/16 of a inch. bend a rin and ouch bye bye caliper

 

[Chance]

Are you positive the calipers are the same? How many paddles should I run on the 1000?

 

[sandchris]

They are the same.If you are running a twelve inch in the back i would run the 8paddle extreme.Watch the videos of my cat.I even leave on razors.Why,because i am running the lightest tire and wheel i can.And those are seven paddles on ten inch wheels.The early 650's you can run a ten on the back and a twelve on the front.

 

[gdeez]

I am running the 12" fronts with my two inch spacers but three weeks ago at Glamis I broke two tie rods. I tried to shave the brake caliper down but could not get the clearance without the spacers. I spoke to Tim Kelly and he said that he had a small spacer that I could use and the rim should not rub any more. I looked at my buddy’s rims that he is using on his Rhino and he has Rock Star rims that are 12" and they look like they would work on the Prowler. But the problem is Rock Star rims do not come in the prowler bolt pattern. I will have the new small spacers from Tim next week and will let you know how they work.

P.S. The new 8 paddle haulers and front buffs worked great. I was able to make it up Olds hill in two wheel drive this time.

 

[sandchris]

I have a set of rock stars that i got from tim that are prowler bolt pattern.If you get the right offset the twelve inch douglas wheels will work with no spacer.The other way to do it is to get rhino to ac adaptors.You get a one inch spacer out of the deal.And then you can run 12 inch rhino wheels on your cat.

I am running the 12" fronts with my two inch spacers but three weeks ago at Glamis I broke two tie rods. I tried to shave the brake caliper down but could not get the clearance without the spacers. I spoke to Tim Kelly and he said that he had a small spacer that I could use and the rim should not rub any more. I looked at my buddy’s rims that he is using on his Rhino and he has Rock Star rims that are 12" and they look like they would work on the Prowler. But the problem is Rock Star rims do not come in the prowler bolt pattern. I will have the new small spacers from Tim next week and will let you know how they work.

P.S. The new 8 paddle haulers and front buffs worked great. I was able to make it up Olds hill in two wheel drive this time.

 

[sandchris]

Ok here it is.Tim Kelley @ Extreme tire.(602)652-0323.There are three different wheels available that will fit on the AC front.The ones that djeez has require a 6 mm spacer to work.The ones that i have require no spacer.I just got off the phone with Tim and he has the stuff in stock.

 

[Chance]

Awesome. I'm glad Tim is up to par on these, he's a good guy to deal with. I bought my paddles and buffs from him for my Rhino and I did his Go Go Rhino tune as well.

 

[GlamisProwler]

good info!!!!!

 

[Chance]

O.K. I just got off the phone with Tim and he suggested to me that I get a 7 paddle? What do you guys think? 7 or 8 on the 1000?

 

[GlamisProwler]

O.K. I just got off the phone with Tim and he suggested to me that I get a 7 paddle? What do you guys think? 7 or 8 on the 1000?

I ran the 8 paddle and it worked really well, Plenty of torq to spin that setup, so I went with a 9 paddle on the setup i just ordered.

 

[sandchris]

I am thinking the eight paddle.The reason i say that is the torque the xtz makes.Does Tim have eight paddles in stock though?

O.K. I just got off the phone with Tim and he suggested to me that I get a 7 paddle? What do you guys think? 7 or 8 on the 1000?

 

[Chance]

I am thinking the eight paddle.The reason i say that is the torque the xtz makes.Does Tim have eight paddles in stock though?

No, he said he'd have to order them.

 

[sandchris]

The seven paddle will be a faster tire imo.

 

[Chance]

I am thinking the eight paddle.The reason i say that is the torque the xtz makes.Does Tim have eight paddles in stock though?

The seven paddle will be a faster tire imo.

Alright which is it? 7 or 8?

 

[sandchris]

I guess that was confusing.Sorry about that.For overall bite in a xtz i would think the eight paddle would be better with mods.For a stock xtz i would think that the seven paddle would work fine.The seven paddle tire will be faster in a drag race or up the hill.In my opinion i am getting away with a seven paddle tire because i am running a ten inch wheel in the back that puts alot more rubber in contact with the sand.
There are more things that come into play though.
1.How much weight will be in the machine?
2.What are you after?Better duning or better hill climbing,drags etc.Or all the above?
3.Are you gonna run buffs up front or mohawk style?
4.Are you planning on mods?

 

[Chance]

I guess that was confusing.Sorry about that.For overall bite in a xtz i would think the eight paddle would be better with mods.For a stock xtz i would think that the seven paddle would work fine.The seven paddle tire will be faster in a drag race or up the hill.In my opinion i am getting away with a seven paddle tire because i am running a ten inch wheel in the back that puts alot more rubber in contact with the sand.
There are more things that come into play though.
1.How much weight will be in the machine?
2.What are you after?Better duning or better hill climbing,drags etc.Or all the above?
3.Are you gonna run buffs up front or mohawk style?
4.Are you planning on mods?

1. I'll be doing a four seater cage. But fast duning with no more than two people up front.
2. I'm after better duning. Not really into hill shooting or drags.
3. Buffs up front for sure
4. No motor mods in the plan. This thing has enough for me. I do my high speed dune runs in the rail.
Now what do you think?

 

[sandchris]

There it is"fast duning".With that being said the seven paddle will turn easier, ya know left to right.You will be able to spin the tire easier too.

 

[Dentless]

I actually disagree with Chris on this one. Guys are running 7 paddle haulers from our group on basically stock Rhino's. I can't see running the same paddle as a stock Rhino. There is a fine line where you get just enough slippage but still enough grip. I am going to try an 8 paddle 26" hauler this weekend. I think 8 or 9 paddles is more where you will want to be with these things........................