[travisn]

Hey all,

My buddy has an 07 Prowler 650 H1. It keeps blowing the fuse for the ignition circuit. I am wondering if there is a common problem I should be aware of. I REALLY dont want to have to replace the whole wire which sounds like the only possibility (cut and solder in a new section in between each connection until it doesnt short anymore. The dealer wanted to put a harness in it,

any ideas?

Thanks.

 

[sandchris]

Hey travisn welcome to the site.Could we get a little more info from you.I am assuming it blows the fuse when you turn the key on.Or does it do it while he is driving it?
This is the first time i have heard of them blowing ignition fuses.

 

[travisn]

mmm not sure. I'll find out tomorrow. this is a 'remote' repair as I live about 2 hours away and only go over on weekends...

 

[sandchris]

If the dealer wants to change the harness i am just wondering if they have seen this before.And if they have did it fix the problem?

 

[travisn]

I am not sure, I doubt it as he lives in the middle of no where. He said it only shorts when going through rough stuff so it must be a bare wire someplace.

Does anyone have wiring diagrams online?

 

[sandchris]

There is a link that is on another thread in here that i will try to find.Or maybe one of the other guys that knows it will get it on here for you before i find it.It is the shop manuel as far as i know.
I think you are right about a bare wire seeing how it does it when he is out riding.If it was me i think i would unplug things one at a time and drive it for procces of elimination first.I would start with unplugging the headlights at the switch.Then maybe the 4x4 switch,etc.Things that are not hot unless the ignition is on.Just so i would know for sure it was not a problem in one of those items.It probably is a bare wire in the harness though.But the good thing about it i guess is that there should only be maybe 2-3 hot wires running through the harness from the dash to the cdi,engine,etc.

 

[sandchris]

K&T parts house has Arctic Cat service manuals.You can download them for free.

 

[travisn]

thanks for that. can anyone tell me what one I should use? there are a few for the 650, my buddies is the H1. I am not sure what that means or if its any different really.

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would it be the one listed as "arctic_cat_2008_prowler_xt_xtx_service_manual.pdf "?

 

[sandchris]

I think you need the 07 right?Any 07 650 prowler manual should do it.But it is free so down load a couple.Or at least the wiring part.

 

[travisn]

ha yea, i guess it is an 07. lol. is there any difference with the H1 deal?

 

[sandchris]

Not that i know of.I suppose they could have changed some stuff in the electrical system.Not sure.

 

[Dentless]

The H1 really doesn't mean anything. All the 650's are H1s............

 

[Bipolar Jim]

Travisn

Check under the tub in the front if it has a lot of miles and the front shock supports start moving the wire harness well rub between the tub and the support. There's a orange wire in the harness that will cause a direct short plowing the main fuse.

Learned that one the hard way

Jim www.bipolarracing.com

 

[Bipolar Jim]

Well now that I've read all the posts on this I think this is where you will find the short the bummer is you must pull the tub witch means you must pull the dash. If you pull the tub its a good time to tighten all the supports in the front or weld them up solid when you get the tub out you'll see what I mean.

Hope this helps

JIM

 

[travisn]

its already all apart. where exactly should I look for the short and where should I weld??

 

[Bipolar Jim]

The supports that run from the cross tube under the dash to the front end are bolted we weld them up on both ends. Lots of aggressive driving will cause them to loosen up.

JIm

 

[travisn]

so it is the dash bar that the dash attatches to that gets loose? is that the same spot where the wire rubs?

 

[Bipolar Jim]

No the bars going from the bar the dash mounts to the dash bar is welded on each side.

I'll take some pics. when I get home and post them for you.

Jim

 

[travisn]

thanks, if its not too much trouble could you circle the areas to weld and where you think it rubs in ms paint or your program of choice?

 

[Bipolar Jim]

OK the pics. suck but you can see the bracket that you can weld. The harness behind the brace the master cylinder mounts on is where you should check for the short.