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I keep looking for a low cost Class C camper that would be good to tow the prowler or the wife's HHR on short trips. I ran across this today but have read bad things about the early V10's blowing spark plugs out. I read they get poor mileage but have great towing power, I've never owned a Ford only GM products.

Any opinions on this camper and what the actual value would be, I haven't check the buying guides yet.

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several of my friends have had or currently have the big blue oval V10 hoping to get a "gas engine with diesel pulling power" at much less costs ..... BIG MISTAKE

if your budget has room find a used diesel rig at budget prices and be a happy camper v/s a frustrated one with engine torque [lack of] and cooling issues


BTW .. I just talked my Son into waiting until he could afford a diesel powered rig , he had found a similar rig to [only a bit longer] what your showing in your link
 

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Thanks for the heads up, after looking at the pics again I think it may have been wrecked or something. The blue stripe on the driver's side is missing.
 

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I agree with Gary. Wait for a diesel.

I have never had a Ford V10, but I had a Dodge V10 (probably not a fair comparison). It got 6 mpg and had to downshift often to climb mild grades. I then got a Dodge with a Cummins in it and it did everything I wanted it to do...
 

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From what I've read it's about the same mileage.
 

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From what I've read it's about the same mileage.
someone blew smoke up your butt then IMHO

most /many dodge Diesels with the Cummins get between 10 and 13 MPG pulling , don't matter what the weight behind them much ... I get on avg. 10-11 and I pull heavy most of the time .. my old '01 fifth wheel trailer was dry 16K lbs , add 2500 +/- to that loaded , my Gooseneck trailer is usually 25K + when loaded , and my new Arctic Fox 32A trailer is over 10K dry and I most always have my Arctic Cat on the flat bed [truck] when pulling that trailer as I will in less than a week .. when I head out for summer months I'll look like a traveling Okie [days of the dust bowel coming to mind here] LOL

so anyway I belong to several Dodge Diesel sites and most report more that 10 MPG pulling heavy
 

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From what I've read it's about the same mileage.
I read this in a totally different way. I interpreted Mike to mean that the Ford V10s get about the same (bad) 6 mpg and has the same poor torques as the Dodge V10, and not meaning anything bad about the diesel.

I certainly agree with your comments on the Cummins. My 1 ton dually had a power booster device added and it still got 14 mpg pulling my race car trailer at any legal speed.
 

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From what I've read it's about the same mileage.
I read this in a totally different way. I interpreted Mike to mean that the Ford V10s get about the same (bad) 6 mpg and has the same poor torques as the Dodge V10, and not meaning anything bad about the diesel.

I certainly agree with your comments on the Cummins. My 1 ton dually had a power improver added and it still got 14 mpg pulling my race car trailer at any legal speed.
Yep that's what I meant, the same poor mileage. The site I read said 7-8 mpg on the Ford V10.

I should have quoted the part I was replying to so there wouldn't be any confusion.
 

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.. when I head out for summer months I'll look like a traveling Okie [days of the dust bowel coming to mind here] LOL
"traveling Okie" ? :eek:
 

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That V-10 was one of Fords Mod motors (engine tooling worked on several engine families), I've heard good and bad, but decent for a gas motor. Much better than the 460 truck motors! I had a 3/4 ton Ford pickup with a 460, it got 6-8 empty, and the same fully loaded! It did have gobs of torque, but never compared to a diesel!
 

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Yep that's what I meant, the same poor mileage. The site I read said 7-8 mpg on the Ford V10.

I should have quoted the part I was replying to so there wouldn't be any confusion.
OOPS .. sorry for the mistake>:)
 

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"traveling Okie" ? :eek:
yes as in the dust bowel days when there was streams of folks leaving and just abandoning their homes and possessions with what they could take strapped to their cars all lashed and sorrowful looking with lil hope of improvement , most went to Calif.


OH BTW .. my Cummins has a "few things" here and there also .... huge injectors , twin turbo's, cam , mechanical lift pump on a 24 valve engine , ton of head work , bunch of intake track work as well as pieces for flow, a big programmer , and some other misc. stuff to help it along ... last trip to the rollers it made right at 1300 ft. pounds torque .. got a dual disc clutch to hold that power too :) ... when I did all that it was a very respectable power level for the day now however the common rail motors are able to get way past mine and much easier for way less $$$ .. but mine still runs hard LOL AND IS USED HARD

if I remember I'll take a pic when it's loaded for my next trip any you'll see a "traveling Okie" rig OH AND NO OFFENSE meant !!!
 

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OOPS .. sorry for the mistake>:)
It's all good, they did say it had a lot of pulling power so maybe they were blowing a little smoke! My main concern was longevity of the engine considering the problems with the aluminum heads I read about. Does't matter now looks like its been sold, the ad has been deleted. No more than I'd be traveling fuel mileage isn't my biggest concern, I just want to get where I'm going :D
 

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That V-10 was one of Fords Mod motors (engine tooling worked on several engine families), I've heard good and bad, but decent for a gas motor. Much better than the 460 truck motors! I had a 3/4 ton Ford pickup with a 460, it got 6-8 empty, and the same fully loaded! It did have gobs of torque, but never compared to a diesel!
Here's one with the 460 motor
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Last week, I looked at a similar, but newer, unit based on a E350. It was slightly shorter than the one on your link. They are asking $32,000.
I cannot remember anything else about it. It was locked and I did not get to see the interior. $10,000 seems like a fair price.

The one in your most recent link looks like it would be a very long rig (I would find it difficult to drive), when combined with your trailer.
 

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Last week, I looked at a similar, but newer, unit based on a E350. It was slightly shorter than the one on your link. They are asking $32,000.
I cannot remember anything else about it. It was locked and I did not get to see the interior. $10,000 seems like a fair price.

The one in your most recent link looks like it would be a very long rig (I would find it difficult to drive), when combined with your trailer.
It is longer than I would want, still window shopping.
 

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If it was just me I would go for a light weight overhead camper for my truck but the wife demands something with a indoor bathroom. I only have a 1/2 ton ext. cab truck so that's not going to work, if I had a 3/4 ton with an eight foot bed I'd be better off.
 
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Like anything else, the partnership seals the deal!
 
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