[Desertcat]

Ok I was just thinking about the guys that ride by them selfs and what do you do if your battery is dead?????

With no one to jump you when your hunting, camping, or just out for a fun ride with the family with your pals.

After doing to a little research I found something interesting. Polaris is always known to have electric start on there quads along with a recoil pull start. So check this out.


In 2006 Arctic Cat came out with an ATV 650 H1 AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION 4X4 BLACK SE that has a recoil starter on it. The cover plate is the same shape as the one on the Prowler. When you compare the parts pages they have the same parts inside the cover plate. The Prowler just has the cover no pull cord.


Has any one looked into this or am I just not getting enough sleep. Take a look at babbits online and look at the parts pages for your self. Babbitts Sports Center | Arctic Cat OEM Parts | Can-Am (Bombardier) OEM Parts | Honda OEM Parts | Kawasaki OEM Parts | Polaris OEM Parts | Sea-Doo OEM Parts | Ski-Doo OEM Parts | Suzuki OEM Parts | Yamaha OEM Parts


I am assuming you could pull over the 650 motor???

 

[sandchris]

I have always thought that.Because if you have the cover off on that side you can see the hub in there that looks like it is for a pull starter.The hub is cut out for what looks like cogs for a pull starter.Not sure if it would be that much fun to pull start a 650.Or for that matter if it would have enough amps to fire it off if the battery was dead.

 

[Retired1]

I had a similar concern when I bought my Rhino. I was always out by myself and leaving various lights on. I also made long trips on my BMW and if left sitting for long periods of time, the battery would lose power. To address this, I bought a small, self contained, battery jump starter kit marketed by Coleman and sold at Pep boys. I like it because it is totally contained in a Pelican style waterproof case. I place it in whatever vehicle I happen to be using. It's a bit heavy (18 lbs), but gives me some peace of mind. These are no longer sold, but small battery jump packs, that would work as well or better, are easily found.

Coleman 18 amp/hr waterproof jump start kit. Model # PMJ8660

http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/350v8s10/Coleman%20jump%20starter/

I paid $50 for mine. In Dec 2007, Pep Boys put these on close out and dropped the price to $29.99, then to $19.99 until they were gone ( http://www.fatwallet.net/forums/hot-deals/796629/ ). I missed the close out and still am disappointed I didn't know about it at the time. These jump start kits may still be in some stores' inventory. If so, they are really nice for small battery applications such as ATVs, UTVs, motorcycles, and garden tractors. In addition to the jumper cables, these have a 12v power (cigarette lighter style) power plug and a trouble light. Included is the 120v charger.

 

[Darryl89]

The recoil starter is available in the AC Accessories Catalog. I'll check and see what the pricing is later today when I'm at the office. It fits the 650H1.
For my XTZ, I have a 2nd battery (yellow top Optima) with a battery isolator. Also have a 60 amp Denso alternator kit getting ready to go in the XTZ.
If both of those fail, I switch to TFW alternative power....two feet a walkin'.....

4WD CJ7, I like your idea of carrying the battery boost pack, good idea.

By the way, Johnny, do you have the drive sheave for the alternator kit on the XTZ that you can sell separately?

 

[Retired1]

Coleman Model PMJ8660 jump start battery pack photos posted in link above and here:

Coleman jump starter pictures by 350v8s10 - Photobucket

 

[Desertcat]

The recoil starter is available in the AC Accessories Catalog. I'll check and see what the pricing is later today when I'm at the office. It fits the 650H1.
For my XTZ, I have a 2nd battery (yellow top Optima) with a battery isolator. Also have a 60 amp Denso alternator kit getting ready to go in the XTZ.
If both of those fail, I switch to TFW alternative power....two feet a walkin'.....

4WD CJ7, I like your idea of carrying the battery boost pack, good idea.

By the way, Johnny, do you have the drive sheave for the alternator kit on the XTZ that you can sell separately?

Is it possilble to even pull start the 650? Did AC do something to the 650 ATV to make this possible??

 

[Desertcat]

I have always thought that.Because if you have the cover off on that side you can see the hub in there that looks like it is for a pull starter.The hub is cut out for what looks like cogs for a pull starter.Not sure if it would be that much fun to pull start a 650.Or for that matter if it would have enough amps to fire it off if the battery was dead.

The way I see it, recoil coupled with the key swich "a little battery juice" you should be able to get it started.

Do any one know some one with a 650 ATV??

 

[Mustanggeek]

I have wondered why AC didn't provide a recoil pull starter like their ATV's. My dad's 700 efi has one and it starts with no problems pulling.

 

[Darryl89]

Okay, here's the part numbers for the recoil starters...

2010 700H1 FIS & TBX, 07-09 650H1 & 700H1 models take P/N 1436-002

07-10 650H1 & 700H1 TRV models take P/N 1436-007

Both retail for $129.95. The main differences between the two are the body panels. The recoil unit itself is the same.

I've started both 650H1's and 700H1's with the recoil starter. The trick is to use your body leverage, starting standing on the running board when you do it. It took me 2 or 3 pulls to get each started. But it's a very viable method.
As for adapting the recoil starters to Prowlers, I'm sure it can be done, just have to make sure you have room to pull the rope.

 

[Desertcat]

Okay, here's the part numbers for the recoil starters...

2010 700H1 FIS & TBX, 07-09 650H1 & 700H1 models take P/N 1436-002

07-10 650H1 & 700H1 TRV models take P/N 1436-007

Both retail for $129.95. The main differences between the two are the body panels. The recoil unit itself is the same.

I've started both 650H1's and 700H1's with the recoil starter. The trick is to use your body leverage, starting standing on the running board when you do it. It took me 2 or 3 pulls to get each started. But it's a very viable method.
As for adapting the recoil starters to Prowlers, I'm sure it can be done, just have to make sure you have room to pull the rope.

Outstanding info. This looks like a great option to protect yourself from being left hi and dry. Looking at parts pages on line 2006 H1 ATV recoil starter is # 0820-001 Looking at your #'s it is wrong?

 

[Desertcat]

If I can get my hands on one of these recoil starters I will test it out for you guys. Any one interested in sending me one to check this option out?

 

[Darryl89]

Outstanding info. This looks like a great option to protect yourself from being left hi and dry. Looking at parts pages on line 2006 H1 ATV recoil starter is # 0820-001 Looking at your #'s it is wrong?

I took these numbers straight out of the 2010 accessories catalog. Page 29. The numbers you have may be for just the recoil assembly while mine are for the recoil assembly and body panels. You wouldn't need the panels, so the recoil would suffice. I'll check at my office tomorrow to verify the numbers just for the recoil assembly, you are probably right on that.

 

[Desertcat]

I took these numbers straight out of the 2010 accessories catalog. Page 29. The numbers you have may be for just the recoil assembly while mine are for the recoil assembly and body panels. You wouldn't need the panels, so the recoil would suffice. I'll check at my office tomorrow to verify the numbers just for the recoil assembly, you are probably right on that.

Hi Darryl, what did you come up with.

 

[Darryl89]

Your part number (0820-001) is correct for the recoil starter assembly by itself. But in the notes, it shows that it is only for up to VIN 244421. I don't know if that's when they quit installing the recoil on the 650H1 or if there was a design change.
Retail on the 0820-001 is $124.79 while the kit out of the Accessories Catalog retails for $129.95. Probably the same recoil unit though. Now as for it fitting in the Prowler, that I have no idea. You'd probably just need to try it and let us know. I don't have the kit or any 650 Prowlers to try it on.

 

[Desertcat]

I would like to try it and see if it works but I don't want to buy it and then if it does not work can return it.

 

[ElkoTrailRider]

Hi Desertcat:

I installed the AC recoil (820-001, according to the repair order) on my 650XT. I have not used it yet, but it is comforting to know it is there (like you, I am off with one machine by myself a lot). It just bolted right on, with no change to anything else.

Bob

 

[Desertcat]

Hi Desertcat:

I installed the AC recoil (820-001, according to the repair order) on my 650XT. I have not used it yet, but it is comforting to know it is there (like you, I am off with one machine by myself a lot). It just bolted right on, with no change to anything else.

Bob

Bob,
Outstanding news thanks for sharing this info. Then next time you have the seats off will you please give the recoil a try and get back with me.

Thanks
Seth

 

[ElkoTrailRider]

Hi Seth:

Will do. Probably next weekend, as it is going to the shop for a few things this week.

Bob

 

[Desertcat]

Sounds great thanks

 

[Mustanggeek]

Keep us posted on this Bob.