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I had a long day out yesterday in the mud and the muck on a 60mile ride! Come dark felt like my lights where to dim even on high. I am currently away from my buggy and was wondering if what the headlight size is on the xtz. I'm not wanting to spend the money on an hid kit if I can find a better replacement bulb such as an LED style. But first I need the oem light size so I can start doing my research!
 

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I believe they are all 881:D
 

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I'd look into why they were dim prior to replacing all the bulbs. The 881 puts out a good amount of light on mine.
 

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They are not dim to look at or dull in color. They are just not bright like the other buggies I ride with. It made it tough maneuvering through the deep deep dark hollers while trying not to hit objects due to our low ground clearance.

I was testing that skid plate out on a lot big rocks and it held up great. However I never wanted it to be like that. If I would have been able to see. It would have been different.

Upgraded lights need and probably a SLC lift is being greatly considered.
 

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i always noticed that ac factory lights suck!!!!!i would go hid or ad a couple of leds they make all the difference and draw nothing for amps:D inightride all the time and they are well woth the money
 

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i always noticed that ac factory lights suck!!!!!i would go hid or ad a couple of leds they make all the difference and draw nothing for amps:D inightride all the time and they are well woth the money
Unfortunately at the moment money is an issue. I can get a 50" totron led curved light bar for 350 bucks. But priorities are keeping me spending little money.

Gf graduated her masters program yesterday and we have been looking for a house and some acreage. So penny pinching is in full force. Or I would just add the new light bar.

How ever I had to replace the battery in my 13 xtz already! Wasn't to happy about that but I have always heard do to the slow number in sales of ac there batteries tend to sit and go bad!

Still not sure why I leave the key on for the radio the P0635 light comes on in about 5 mins. Is this typical or do I need to take it in before warranty is up?

Also does a 6000k color temp bulb shine any better that a 3500k bulb?
 

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unfortunately at the moment money is an issue. I can get a 50" totron led curved light bar for 350 bucks. But priorities are keeping me spending little money.

Gf graduated her masters program yesterday and we have been looking for a house and some acreage. So penny pinching is in full force. Or i would just add the new light bar.

How ever i had to replace the battery in my 13 xtz already! Wasn't to happy about that but i have always heard do to the slow number in sales of ac there batteries tend to sit and go bad!

Still not sure why i leave the key on for the radio the p0635 light comes on in about 5 mins. Is this typical or do i need to take it in before warranty is up?

Also does a 6000k color temp bulb shine any better that a 3500k bulb?
yes the 6000k will shine brighter,i would take it in and have it looked at my buddys rzr is the same way about 10 minutes with the radio on will drain his battery,i had to replace mine in the first year.
 

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still running my original stock factory battery , well over 5K on the clock now
I do keep it on a maintainer charger [good quality one, not the low $$ detrain one [however it's spelled] … I have used up several of those ones.
I also keep my other batteries on these chargers when not in regular use .. most of my batteries are Odyssey's
 

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still running my original stock factory battery , well over 5K on the clock now
I do keep it on a maintainer charger [good quality one, not the low $$ detrain one [however it's spelled] … I have used up several of those ones.
I also keep my other batteries on these chargers when not in regular use .. most of my batteries are Odyssey's
Yea Gary Thats un-real your battery is still stock,I have had 4 on mine,but I think a lot of the reason his because it took so long to start,fire's right up now,and this battery is 1 year old,the one in my 1986 350 foreman is 11 years old and never had a tender on it,just gets rode more.
 

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Yea Gary Thats un-real your battery is still stock,I have had 4 on mine,but I think a lot of the reason his because it took so long to start,fire's right up now,and this battery is 1 year old,the one in my 1986 350 foreman is 11 years old and never had a tender on it,just gets rode more.
Has anyone ever thought about upgrading from a 27w bulb to a 55w bulb. I have definitely been doing a lot of searching and 881 bulbs are actually a fog light bulb and not a head light bulb and an 880 is the exact bulb only lacks the 90 degree elbow connection. My only concern is the possible additional heat In the headlight housing. It sure would be an easy upgrade. And an easy way for a manufacture to save some money. Not to mention the dang things say Korea on them!

Any thoughts?
 

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give me your address , when I get back to Coeur d'Alene in July I can mail you a complete housing you can use to "test" your idea on one bulb … I had to replace it as it let water in , it wasn't sealed right from the factory I didn't see that until I cracked a bulb with water.
 

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Sent you a pm with my address.

If this works it would be great! Rather than spending hundreds in aftermarket for lighting.
 

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Has anyone ever thought about upgrading from a 27w bulb to a 55w bulb. I have definitely been doing a lot of searching and 881 bulbs are actually a fog light bulb and not a head light bulb and an 880 is the exact bulb only lacks the 90 degree elbow connection. My only concern is the possible additional heat In the headlight housing. It sure would be an easy upgrade. And an easy way for a manufacture to save some money. Not to mention the dang things say Korea on them!

Any thoughts?
I the problem is ,your charging sysem is 25 amp,,1 55 watt lightbulb draws 4.77 amps x4 if you change them all ,if you add everything else like fan and whatever else your running,your already in trouble before you start,,,thats why we run leds because they draw next to nothing for power,,or you could just get an hid kit from ebay for like 38 bucks for 35watt
 

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I the problem is ,your charging sysem is 25 amp,,1 55 watt lightbulb draws 4.77 amps x4 if you change them all ,if you add everything else like fan and whatever else your running,your already in trouble before you start,,,thats why we run leds because they draw next to nothing for power,,or you could just get an hid kit from ebay for like 38 bucks for 35watt
I see, but it would still only be x2 because never do all four run at the same time. So at most it would be 9.5 total draw.

Because anyone that runs an xtz knows you mise well no get a radio. You can't hear it went your riding in the first place. I must say I learned the hard way. So it will never be used while the buggy is running. The only other possible thing that would run would be the winch which I know is a huge draw but I think I will still be safe...

The type of riding that I do a light bar above my prowler wouldn't make it to the first beer stop before it get ripped off. Not to mention the xtz has 2" less ground clearance and an additional 1.5" of height in comparison to a 800 ranger crew. So clearance is a huge issue for me and would only make a light bar even worse if I got a lift.

I don't plan on going ball to the wall on lighting I just want to upgrade without going broke.
 

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I used Ford Mustang fog light housings and LED Bulbs for my additional lighting. They do draw more watts pre bulb. Stock bulbs are 27 Watts each, the fog light bulbs are 55 each. Stock total is 108 watts, fog lights are 110 watts. So either or on what I turn on, in a pinch I can run all of them. I do have a HID conversion kit for the fog lights, but it is still sitting on the shelf!
 

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I see, but it would still only be x2 because never do all four run at the same time. So at most it would be 9.5 total draw.

Because anyone that runs an xtz knows you mise well no get a radio. You can't hear it went your riding in the first place. I must say I learned the hard way. So it will never be used while the buggy is running. The only other possible thing that would run would be the winch which I know is a huge draw but I think I will still be safe...

The type of riding that I do a light bar above my prowler wouldn't make it to the first beer stop before it get ripped off. Not to mention the xtz has 2" less ground clearance and an additional 1.5" of height in comparison to a 800 ranger crew. So clearance is a huge issue for me and would only make a light bar even worse if I got a lift.

I don't plan on going ball to the wall on lighting I just want to upgrade without going broke.
Chaz you can also run a light bar on your bumper like I did,I'm all wired for one at the top of the windshield but I'm like you around here it would not last long.
 

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Chaz I go my hid lights on e-bay for 46 dollars and thats for 2 sets high and low beam,they are 6000k and are very bright,I only use low beam also.most of the time I just use my led light bar.The hids will drop my volt gauge just for a second or so until they come on and then my volt gauge go's back up to normal.
 

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Chaz .. got it … won't be going north until some time in July, so don't expect it for a while
 

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Thanks Gary, for the time being I have still made an attempt to upgrade my lights for future endeavors. After hours of research I found out that a 881, 894 and a 898 bulb are all physically interchangeable and will work. They tech data is the only difference and it is minimal as far as I can tell. This is what I found out... I have opted to try the 894 due to the almost double lumens compared to the standard 881.


Bulb. 881 894 898
Body type. Right angled prefocus (PGJ13)
Amp draw. 2.1. 2.93 2.93
Color temp. All 3100
Wattage. 32. 38. 37.5
LUMENS. 565. 942. 754

As you noticed the 881 was listed as 32 watts when our factory is a 27.5w.. These numbers where all pulled from a sylvania standard fog light and was obtained from auto zones website.
 

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interesting info there .. one might look at those for auto's also
 
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